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After returning from Vietnam, serving with Ninth Marines, I was assigned to Marine Barracks, NAS Norfolk. It was September 1971 and I was recovering from surgery at Portsmouth Naval Hospital. I was on convalescent duty, basically just doing anything to keep me movin around for the exercise. On this particular day dressed in my stateside utilities, I was going from room to room emptying trash cans.
As I walked into one of the rooms a distinguished looking gentleman pulled himself up on one elbow and bellowed. "How's it going Marine" the booming voice brought me to attention and I answered with the greeting of the day. As we began to converse, I started to feel more relaxed while we exchanged small talk. The conversation was short due to several corpsmen interrupting us and telling me to leave so they could perform their duties. It was strange as I felt I had spoken to the gentleman before. As I exited the room one of the corpsmen smiled and told me who he was. I had been correct in my assumption, each night in boot camp I had spoken to him.
Goodnight Chesty, wherever you are!
Cpl. W Whitley
Lieutenant General, Lewis Burwell Puller passed away October the 11th 1971. It was an honor Sir!
Sgt Yaz
Sgt Grit
I was the Director of Sea School and NCO School, MCRD, San Diego
from March 1978 until Dec 1981. Sgt Yaz was living in a room
that was directly across from Sea School. Sea School was
located where 12th Marine District is today. Sgt Yaz used the
Head facilities at Sea School.
Sgt Yaz's duties were to clean the CG's office and empty trash
cans in the Depot CP. He normally wore a black glove on one of
his hands. He was quite the character. His room resembled a
museum. He had a regular Marine rack and wall locker. He
could have passed a junk on the bunk inspection at any time.
Room was always squared away! He had photos of every CG from
1948 to the present (1977). Sgt Yaz loved to show his room and
all his photos. He was a former boxer and had some great Sea
Stories. During the day he normally spent most of his time on
the 2d deck of the Depot Hqtrs in the old Barber Shop....most of
the time sleeping in the barber chair....the barber shop was not
used at this time...
He was probably in his late 70's when I met him. Sea School
maintained an Instructor on duty 24 hrs a day when we had
students. These Instructors tended to watch out for Sgt Yaz.
He had fallen in the shower before and we kept and eye out for
him to insure his safety.
One of the details for Sea School Students were to clean the
CG's Office and Chief of Staff's Office. I know that Sgt Yaz
also participated in that detail. One time he broke the CG's
water glass and another time he spilled a bottle of shoe dye.
The Sea School Students took the heat for those two incidents.
I am sure there are many more Sgt Yaz stories....He was a very
small man but had a very strong grip. Always referred to me as
"Skipper, Sir". I was a Captain at the time...
I know that he was robbed off base and that the CG determined it
would be better if he was moved to a retirement facility. This
all occurred after I left this assignment. Great NEWS LETTER!
Semper Fi,
Mike Einsidler
Col USMC(Ret)
With My Dog
Sgt,
Just thought I would pass on a pic of my dog. When I'm not
working overseas I go to the local R.S. and poolee functions
with my dog. Thought ya'll might enjoy.
Tiny Huddleston
Heavy Machine Gunner
Norm: I was a heavy machine gunner in Korea 3rd bat 7th weapons
co. 50 to 51, I never heard of atrypod with a seat, I sure
wouldn't have wanted one. I had to pull my machine gun and
tripod of a hill when the water can was streaming from heavy
fire. The 5th rok went so and left us high and dry and the gooks
were coming at us from three sides. Before I left the area I
put a grenade in my mess gear and pulled the pin, put the lid on
very carefully, left it behind. I would like to have seen the
look on the gooks face when he opened it, if he had a face after
that?
Staff Sgt Bob Langford 50 to 54
Good afternoon another outstanding newsletter. A reply to Mr.
Norm Callahan about sit behind tripods .The M1917A1 HMG was
water-cooled had a sit behind tripod. The tripod & cradle weighed
about 50 pounds the gun itself when the water jacket was full
weighed aver 40 pounds. The parts from the water jacket back to
the trigger were interchangeable. Since this was a watercooled
the barrel was thinner antifreeze had to be used in the winter
that might be the reason you never saw one in Korea.
SEMPER FI to all
Ruben B. Scott 1138959/0331
He Would Need Me
I am a Motor-T Marine that served on active duty from 92-96 with
8th Comm Bn Hq Co MT Plt. On a routine supply run I asked a
young Pfc. for an Alice pack frame. Of coarse he informed me that
they were for staff NCO's and Officers. being a LCpl. I did not
rate one. A Senior LCpl. came around the corner and asked what
the problem was, the Pfc. explained. The LCpl. looked at me than
turned to the Pfc. and asked him "do you know who this is?" the
Pfc. said no. the LCpl. said to him "he is Motor-T you get him
what ever he wants!" The LCpl. knew that he would need me,
before I needed him!
Semper Fi,
Cpl. Dougall MacDougall USMC
92-96,97-99
Open-Ended Questions
Dear Sgt. Grit:
I finally had a chance to read about Dominic Esquibel, the young
Marine Corporal who declined his Navy Cross. He stated his
refusal to wear the medal as "personal".
It reminded me of a young Army Staff Sergeant with the 88th
Infantry Division some sixty-four years ago who was building a
bridge across the Arno River under fire, got blown off the
bridge and swam back out a few times to rescue his crew. He
"plunked" a couple of pieces of shrapnel out of himself, used
battle dressings and sulfa powder to dress his own wounds, and
then, rather non-plussed, went back to work. A few days later,
he found himself in a rear-area hospital with serious
infections, almost lost one arm, and finished up the war running
mess halls in Florence. I remembered that his rows of
decorations, albeit impressive, contained neither an award for
valor nor a Purple Heart. When I asked him about it, he told me
he didn't feel he'd done enough to earn them. I was a brand-new
Mustang Second Lieutenant at the time. That Staff Sergeant was
my father.
Soon afterward, curiosity got the best of me and I started
asking open-ended questions of some of the bonafide heroes I met
at the Basic School, and later in the Fleet Marine Force: Wesley
Fox, Archie Biggers, Van D. Bell, and Lewis Wilson, to name a
few. Their answers were nearly identical. They all felt that
they hadn't done anything any other Marine wouldn't have done in
the same situation, and that they weren't wearing the
decorations for themselves, but for the other thousand guys who
did even more heroic things, but who went unnoticed. In that
respect, they all taught me about ownership for those
decorations. It seems to me they're owned by that PFC who yanks
on your rifle belt knocking you off your feet just before the
mortar round impacts; by every Sergeant who leads the way into a
defended first-floor window, and by the Lance Corporals who
cover them while they dive through the frame. In short, those
decorations are part of Marine Corps History. In that sense,
they're owned by everyone who's ever worn the Eagle Globe and
Anchor.
Corporal Esquibel is that kind of hero; whether or not he ever
wears a Navy Cross, he is now part of that history. You can rest
assured that, like me, there are at least two-hundred-thousand
other Marines and Marine veterans who'd just like to shake his
hand and tell him: "Thanks, Marine; well done."
K. Brown
I Was Sworn In
Dear Sgt Grit
I was sworn in on Jan,10,1961 the day of my 17th birthday I'm a
Jersey City N,J Marine after P.I. and camp Giger my duty station
was Camp Lejeune serving with Lco.3/8 I must say being a Marine
was the best years of my youth, After two input's with a line co
I was transfer to 2nd Recon Bn.. morfort point which was located
outside of J Vill (Jacksonville NC.) I was discharge honorable
on Jan 9 1965 from active service.
I was a grunt and proud of it I reach out to all my fellow
Marines and say Semper Fi. and always remember you have served
with the finest fighting force this world has known and till our
last breath we will always be Marines'
Proud Heritage
Sgt. Grit,
In response to Betsy Gill (September 18), mother of Recruit C.H.
Lyman V.
Congratulations - your son has a proud heritage. It seems like
once it gets in your blood, it stays.
My Great Uncle, Sgt Major James Bruce Bunch joined the Corps in
1925, and served under Colonel Charles H. Lyman, in the Fourth
Regiment, Shanghai, China in 1929. My nephew, Corporal Jeremy
Staggs, served with 3rd Battalion 5th Marines in Iraq.
Attached are boot camp pictures for Bruce (1925) Jerry (1980)
and a slightly more recent picture of Jeremy.
Jerry Barrett
Sgt 1980-1984
An Hour To Calm Down
I was with VMFA-122 @ Cubi Point, Subic Bay, Republic of the
Philippines, in the summer of 1978. As luck would have it, I
drew guard duty at the Quonset huts where our det was staying
while working on our F-4's. It was late summer and we were being
slammed by a typhoon that was churning across the islands. I, a
lance corporal, was walking guard duty in the dead of night
around these huts with the wind howling and the rain drumming
down. Flipping my night stick like a keystone cop, (that was it
for a defensive weapon), I turned the corner of the Quonset hut
only to come face to face with a 100 lb rock ape sitting on a 55
gal drum so he was essentially eye level. Well, we saw ea other
about the same time when we were about a foot apart. The ape
screamed, I screamed, the night stick flying, (didn't find it
till the next morning) the ape took off as I was crabbing
backwards trying to get away from this screaming demon that had
beset me. It took me an hour to calm down, and all my squadron
mates had a great laugh at my expense when they returned from
the 'ville in Olongapo. Semper Fi, my friends.
Tony Folds, sgt of Marines
76-81
Best Of Times
Here are 2 pictures that I found in my stack of pictures.
One is of me "Doc" Wentz and a picture of the ceremonial 50,000
round of "A" Batt, 11th Marines 1 MarDiv some time in early
"67". Hope you can publish this so some of the gunners would
appreciate it. My time with the USMC was the best of times and I
still relate to all Marines. To all the United States Marines
that I served with thank you and to all others Thanks you for
being here.
Michael L. Wentz Viet Nam 66-67
My First Command
I write because you awakened memories of my first command. The
NCO leadership in my first Platoon during a very trying period
for the Corps of the late 1970's was superb in so many ways.
After the Platoon Sergeant moved to the Enlisted club, a few
corporals including yourself, a DomRep named Gutierrez, Cpl
Sanele and Sgt Elizondo helped me rebuild 3rd Platoon. Many
good NCO's were added, but you were the core group.
I certainly remember you having a great attitude no matter what
training we were involved in. I can picture in my mind your
quick smile and leadership skills of inspiring your troops to
perform to their best.
Though I put in for transfer to the air side and had a
successful career, I never forgot my roots. There are no
comparisons in other MOS's to the closeness and camaraderie of
Marine infantry. My one regret is that I don't think I told
each of you how much I valued your leadership in making our unit
one that any would be proud to serve in.
I remember very clearly that when I arrived in April '77 that
our numbers were 13 and when I left our numbers were 39. You
and your fellow NCO's emphatically demonstrated that you were
responsible for the strength and spirit of your 38. This was
really proven under the command of Capt Jan Huly as he assigned
our platoon the left flank during the Palm Tree exercise we
participated in. (He retired earlier this year as a LtGen.) He
told me after the exercise that he selected us because he knew
we were the most tactically proficient platoon. Thanks so much
for supporting me. Please, accept my condolences for the loss
of your brother and father. Please, pass on to your brothers
and my Marine brothers a hearty Semper Fidelis. I pray God is
blessing you and your family daily. OORAH Marine.
Ed Johnson
LtCol USMC (Ret)
3rd Plt K 3/5 Mar 77-Aug 79
I Hated Those Letters
Are there any Postal Marines still around out there? I served
on Pendleton, 29 Palms, Okinawa, and with the 1st MarDiv and 1st
MAW in Nam from 1968 to 1970. Working in the postal units as
assigned by the CG's by those units to make sure the mail got
to those in the field. It wasn't a pleasant job, because the
forward units would send the mail back in packets with big red
KIA or MIA stamped or written on them. Some of the stuff coming
in was registered and you knew your fellow Marine was getting a
'screw you' from his wife and her attorney but the mail had to
go through. I hated those letters because I knew what they
would do to the guys in the bush and I wanted to be with them.
And as many times as I tried I kept getting turned down. Not
everyone was destined to be a 0311 or a Recon Marine some of us
had to stay behind.
Sid Lawrence
Sgt USMC '68-72 2475082
Are there any 0161 Marines from the Vietnam era still willing to
admit that we served in country and pulled guard duty on
Reactionary Force Zulu and still made sure that the grunts got
their mail. It was hard on us we knew what was in those
Registered letters from attorneys but we had to make sure it got
through anyway. I caught a ride on a CH46 to LZ Baldy the
morning after 2/7was overrun to deliver registered mail and
ended up loading body bags and wounded along with the mail I
couldn't deliver. Yeah I was scared but ashamed too because I
wasn't there sooner to be able to help my fellow Marines.
Sid Lawrence
Still a Marine after all these years
The Struggle
Dear Sgt. Grit,
Ever wonder about the struggle Fleet Marine Force Corpsmen
wrestle with when it comes to branch loyalty? I don't know if
anyone has ever expressed such in this forum but I'm here to
tell you that it is difficult for me to explain in clear,
tangible terms. Although I am most proud of my service as a
Marine "Doc" in a line company, I'm obliged, as well, to the
"top-notch" medical training I received from the Navy. I was no
more proud to wear my Navy Dress Blues as I was to wear my
cammies and caduceus with the EGA on my cover. My DD214 says
"Navy" but my pride resides in the Corps. Having said that, how
can I honor both and be true to either? Has anyone ever
expressed a firm answer to this for the sake of clarity and
conviction?
Semper Fi,
HM3 P. Roy
2nd Plt, Co. L.
3rd Bn/8th Mar Regt.
1980-1984
Always In Trouble
I love browsing the newsletters I receive. As I was looking
through my most current edition on the anniversary of 911 I
noticed a picture of platoon 371. Out of curiosity I clicked on
the picture to enlarge it and get a closer look see. The Drill
Instructor in the middle was my Senior Drill Instructor when I
was at Parris Island. I knew by the look in SSGT Davis' face
that this was the first man whom ever put the fear of God in me.
I was always in trouble growing up, always fighting and causing
general mayhem in our hometown. I look back now and realize that
his ability to "put me in my place" saved me from a lifetime of
run in's with the law. God Bless him wherever he is.
Thank you for all you do for those of us who will always be
Marines. We are a special group of people and I do miss those
days. Just as this very newsletter quoted;
"Once you enlist, you can't wait to get in. Once you're in, you
can't wait to get out. Once you're out, you wish you were in. I
guess I fit into the last line of that poem now."
Semper Fi
Sgt. Simmons
Platoon 3003
Oct. 76 - Jan 77
Elvis-Style
Looking at my hair the other day (yeah -it's not regulation, but
I'm kinda gray now) got me to thinking of a bus ride over 35
years ago.
My sister had gotten married exactly a week earlier; I had been
best man, long-hair and all, and I was now riding a bus in San
Diego sometime before midnight. A Marine Corporal from the
depot was driving and had unceremoniously told us all to "shut
your sucks!" So much for the San Diego County Transit System!
Lowering our voices, everyone looked around at what limited
sights there were on the way to the yellow footprints awaiting
us.
Out of about six hometown guys I enlisted with, there was only
me and another guy whom I'd known since we were little boys in
grade school.
If you had ever seen my friend's high school graduation photo,
you would have seen a curly blond-haired young lad with Elvis-
style mutton-chops giving his best studly looks for all who
gazed upon his fair visage.
I ran my hands through my shoulder-length hair and wondered what
I'd look like without it; no doubt, as did many another guy
sitting on that bus.
Doing that, I glanced at my buddy as he grinned at me, run his
pocket comb through his hair one last time, held it up to the
open bus window, kissed it good-bye and said, "Guess I won't be
seeing you for a long time!"
Looking back on that warm night, I guess he didn't know how
prophetic those words were.
He became a good Marine, got out, eventually married and is a
good citizen; never met a stranger, and friend to all.
I understand he had a health problem awhile back; I lost touch
with him, but if you get the chance, stop by and see him at the
barber shop in Tuttle, OK. Good man, that Dan! More sea
stories later.
Fred Cooper
Raise Our Hands
Sgt. Grit, before it is too late I just wanted to tell you my
story as I have been reading about so many waiting see their
marine recruiter. In early 1942,february I think, all men
between the age of 18 through 45 had to register for the wwii
draft. I was at a farewell party for our local chief of police
who was being drafted. He mentioned that he had tried to enlist
in the navy and also the marine corps but had not been accepted
due to physical reasons.
The thought came into my mind that before I might be drafted
that I should check to see if I could pass the physical exams.
First I went to see the Marine recruiter who checked my weight
and had me read an eye chart. He said I should return the
following Monday to go to Cleveland for the complete physical
and that I should bring a change of underwear as I might have to
stay overnight. This was before the Marine Corps was accepting
draftees.
When I had completed the physical exam I and four others were
conducted through a door into an office where an officer told us
to raise our right hands and take the required oath. We were
then told that we would leave for Parris Island at midnight. I
had to phone my dad and tell him I was not coming home as
planned and he would not have to travel to Akron to pick me up.
At the time I did not even know what the Marine Corps was.
Those who were sworn in were obligated to serve for the
'Duration of the war plus six months' in the Marine Corps
Reserve. I met another recruit later who told me he road a bus
for twenty-four hours to get to the recruiter in Cincinnati.
Some sixty-four years later I was telling this story to another
Marine veteran in Florida who said his was a similar experience
in St. Louis.
At that time there were no yellow footprints and only sea-going
Marines were issued blues. The train taking us still had
kerosene lamps hanging in the cars and a pot-bellied stove in
the corner
Semper Fi,
Bob Gaston, SSgt. USMCR
384564, 42-46 48-50
Junk-0n-The-Bunk
I remember well junk-on-the-bunk inspections during my days as a
young enlisted Marine. A sea story (probably) that I heard a
couple of times about someone standing a junk-on-the-bunk goes
something like this:
The inspecting officer approaches a Marine standing next to his
rack with his clothing and equipment laid out for inspection.
The inspecting officer asks the Marine, "Where's the stick?"
The Marine asks, somewhat perplexed, "Sir, what stick?" The
inspecting officer replies, "The stick you stir this sh*t with!"
Also, regarding the transition from the M-14 to the M-16 at the
recruit depots during the early 1970s, I was assigned to Marine
Barracks, Ft. Meade, Maryland during the mid-'70s. The M-14 was
still the T/O weapon for enlisted Marines at the barracks,
private to sergeant, and the weapon they used for rifle range
requalification. Most of the junior Marines were assigned to
the barracks after boot camp and whatever MOS training they
completed, and they were completely unfamiliar with the rifle.
We staff SNCOs and the officers in charge of requalification
details had to run everything from A to Z at the army's rifle
range, including an honest-to-goodness snapping-in week with
drills and getting the Marines use to shooting positions with
the M-14. The weapon was quite a challenge for guys who had
only fired an M-16.
Semper Fi/ Dave Marvin, Major, USMC (Retired)
This is in response to Bob Lake's comment about the ol' "Junk On
The Bunk" Inspection! I was lucky...privileged enough to
experience mine when on tour with 2nd Marine division in spring
of 91. Very tedious, time consuming, and
anal. That's a good
word for it! Blacking out the eyelets on your web gear, folding
t-shirts so they were all perfectly 6"x6" squares, everything
had a certain measurement distance, and place from the other;
and of coarse this changed a half dozen times. But the best part
was when a general was coming around for troop inspection. I
remember him going off on the 1stSGT "Well yes, they look
pretty, but do they work? Can they function the way a Marine
needs to function in combat?" Oh he was p!ssed.
After getting out in 93, I was approached by the "prior service"
recruiters. But I needed some time out, time to enjoy my new
found freedom.
"Your either in and fighting to up hold freedom, or your out and
enjoying your freedom!" After a year, I was missing the fun. I
looked them up and found out all I had to do was check into a
reserve unit. Under gentlemen's agreement I would serve a
minimum of 6 months, and they agreed I wouldn't have any "major"
inspections. On the sixth month I arrived for my weekend
adventure, and was informed there would be...you guessed it a
JOB! I checked out the same day. "Junk on the Bunk
inspections" More fun than people should be allowed to have!
Bryan Butas
Cpl 89 to 93
Every year, or more, we stood a junk-on-the-bunk (era 1960-64).
I got to be pretty good on this and the one in '62 was the one I
remembered the most. Everything was perfect except the plastic
card that held the brass, insignia and ribbons. Everything would
slip off so I used scotch tape to hold it in place.
The IG, a colonel, stepped into our small squad bay and walked
directly to me. "Are your socks named stamped?" Yes Sir I
replied, (forgetting the DIs advice to not wear unstamped
socks). "Show me". I tried to hide the part where the name
belonged. "Higher". Yes Sir. "Is the other sock stamped the
same?". Yes Sir.
He then walked over my perfect display (except for the nameless
socks I was wearing of course) and picked up the plastic card of
my brass & insignia. All the parts stayed in position but
dangled. He then inspected my lockers with cigarettes & pinups
on the doors. "Do you go to church". Not since boot camp sir.
"Do you take much liberty?" All I can get sir.
And that was it. Our unit got an outstanding and I got mess
duty.
Lee Smialek
Sgt Grit: I served in the mid-Sixties and I believe we would
have one about once every six months. It would occur on Saturday
mornings which meant we would be up all night Friday preparing
for it. Since all of our gear was to be laid out on the bunk and
there was constant activity all over the barracks, sleep was
impossible. Of course, when the IG would walk through, you were
expected to look like you were completely squared away and just
had eight solid hours of sleep.
Those living in the barracks were always jealous of the "lifers"
living off base who would come in about a half hour before it
was to begin, unlock their foot locker and place everything on
an empty bunk. Everyone knew that gear had not seen the light of
day since the previous JOB.
C. F. Larkin Cpl 2237155 Semper Fi
Sgt. Grit,
I would assume that the term would be passed on forever in
The Corps. Another term we used was "Things On The Springs".
Hopefully that term has been passed on also.
Thank you and Semper Fi,
I absolutely remember "junk-on-the-bunk" inspections and it
certainly was not something you looked forward to. One creative
jarhead who tired of the routine of displaying his foot-locker
essentials at unusual times, devised his own short cut. He
sewed on to a blanket in the very exact order required, a pair
of skivvies, socks, t-shirt, etc., etc., which he kept folded up
in his locker. Whenever the call for "junk-on-the-bunk"
inspection came, he reasoned he'd just simply take out his
blanket and show his stuff while the rest of us scrambled to get
everything organized and placed in the exact order.
Unfortunately for him it did not work, not even once. While
inspecting our platoon the DI decided to pick up a pair of his
skivvies to see if they were folded correctly. Oh boy! There
are only three ways to do anything; the right way, the wrong way
and the Marine Corps way. It's never good to not do things the
Marine Corps way.
Don Pekarek
USMC 1957
I remember sleeping on the deck after putting everything out on
their rack the night before so it would be ready for the
inspection.
I had a problem with one of the first inspections we had shortly
after the 1stMarDiv returned to the "Land of the Round Eyes."
Coming back from leave, I had purchased a nice red civvie shirt
to wear on liberty.
However, being male and a dumba$$, I washed it with my skivvies.
These were the white ones with the tie-ties.
Not hard to predict what happened. I had pink skivvies for the
inspection. You all can imagine the humiliation and the
comments that were made to this then corporal.
Semper Fi,
Bob Rader aka Sgt. Wolf
Back in 64 in the 10th Marines we had a IG coming sometime in
Aug. and the Gunny held a JOB every other night after chow for
two weeks b-4 the IG and we had one guy who just left it all on
his rack and slept on the deck for 2 weeks! I seen other Marines
who kept most of there JOB clothes folded and packed away in
boxes for inspections and never used those clothes for wear!
Thanks to LCpl Bob Lake (57-60) for spotting that omission.
Semper Fi brothers/sisters, God bless the Marine Corps!
LCpl Joe Lacey 61--65
Junk on the bunk... seems that was one of the most hated words
in the lexicon. That is, until I was able to save up enough
money to buy a complete duffel bag, and have it JOB quality.
I recall standing IG with Radio Relay and Construction Company,
7th Comm. Bn. Seems we had at least one JOB per week for the
month before the IG. Well, guess that wasn't really all that
bad. It was the company and platoon JOB's that created the
hassle.
I found it didn't take very long, to learn that your JOB display
was enhanced by the tighter you made up your rack.
Semper Fi
Terry Pinkerton
gypink 1963-1979
H&ll, yes I remember that nightmare - but things got a little
easier in 1970. Some background: I was attached to HQMC Flight
Section, NAS Andrews AFB, and as we all know the AF doesn't have
squad bays, they build 'dormitories' with real rooms, and much
as they hate us for it, Marines aboard AF bases get to live in
them.
Sometime during the winter of 1969-70, the USO threw a
'significant anniversary' party, and as a reasonably
'accomplished' amateur photographer who spent a lot of my
liberty hours at the DC USO photographing the activities, and
the girls, and the girls participating in the activities (you
get the idea), I (and my camera) was invited. During the course
of the evening, I had the opportunity to photograph the
Assistant Commandant, General Lew Walt, paying his respects to
Mamie Eisenhower; shortly thereafter I caught General
Westmoreland speaking to her.
I had three 8x10 enlargements made of each photo, mounted them
on mats, and sent two of each to Mrs. Eisenhower with the
request that she keep one and autograph the other, which she was
gracious enough to do. I then sent the copy with the former
First Lady's autograph and the remaining copy to each of the
Generals, with the same request, and they were kind enough to
comply. General Walt even included a note on his personal
stationary, "...with warm regards and appreciation."
I mounted both above my rack, and they - especially General
Walt's with the note attached - drew closer attention during all
subsequent inspections, including the IG, than my junk-on-the-
bunk display (which may or may not have been totally squared
away). Suffice it to say that there were never any recorded
irregularities.
Additionally, since married personnel were also required to
bring their uniforms in and stand inspection on 'borrowed'
racks, there was no shortage of them requesting the use of mine.
Duke Sgt USMC 1966-70
Rodent ID Card
Camp Lejeune 1980, walking guard at the armory inside of the Bn
Supply at HQ. We hammered together a wooden box, and made a rat
trap baited with part of a hoagie sandwich. 15 minutes later I
pulled the string dropping the box on a nice sized screeching
rat. Sliding a piece of glass under the box we turned it over to
view our captured "intruder". Being the diligent guards we were,
my buddy and I knew we were duty bound to call the Sergeant of
the Guard (3 decks up in Bn HQ) to come relieve us of our
"prisoner". Dialing the duty phone to the Sgt upstairs, I
relayed the capture of an intruder at the armory. He ordered us
to "Hold him, we will be right down!"
Seconds later we could hear the heavy footfalls of at least
three Marines barreling down the stairwell at a furious pace.
Then there was a pounding at the Armory door. "Who Goes There?!?
I yelled. "Sergeant and Corporal of the Guard!" was his out of
breath reply. "Step back and be recognized!', as I peeked
through the tiny hole in the door. "Slide your ID card under the
door!" I yelled. After a few seconds the Sgt freed his ID card
from his wallet, and the card came sliding under the door. "Sgt
of the Guard Recognized!" and I unbolted the door.
The Sgt pushed past with his hand resting on the .45 holstered
at his hip. Along with the tiny beads of sweat, you could see
promotion written all over his face as he charged into the
armory asking "Where is he? Where Is He?!?" My buddy was
standing over the wooden box with M16 trained on the prisoner. I
pointed at the box and announced proudly "There he is!". The now
out of breath Sgt of the Guard, Corporal of the Guard, and
Company Driver dropped their gaze and peered down at the
"prisoner" . . . all of the visions of promotion vanished, his
hand fell away from the side arm, and they all stared at the
rodent.
His voice trailing off, he muttered something about how wrong
that was, and they all three turned and trudged back up to the
3rd deck. The Company Driver glancing back with a look of half
humor, and half disgust at having interrupted his sleep. The rat
then showed us his Official MCB Camp Lejeune Rodent ID Card, and
we released him after feeding him his half of the hoagie.
G Cagle Sgt USMC 79-83
CAC-CAP
In response to the name change from CAC to CAP. I was with Cap
1-4-1 in 1969, sometime during our two weeks at CAP training in
Da Nang we were told that the name was changed because the
abbreviation for Combined Action Company was CAC CO. In
Vietnamese, Cac Co, means "kill girl" and there had been an
incident where a young girl had been killed by the PF's.
Jack Broz
HM2
Alpha 1/4 Jan.-June
BAS 1/4 June-Sept.
CAP 1-4-1 Sept -Dec
RVN 1969
By the way, I just confirmed with my Vietnamese pharmacist that
"CAC" indeed is a vulgar reference to a particular male body
part in Vietnamese. No wonder they changed the unit designation
to "CAP."
Doc Thompkins
At Low Tide
I just finished reading " THE LITTLE KOREAN GIRL AND THE RED
APPLE" by: Howard E Fisher it brought back so many memories I to
served in Korea about the time I arrived at the port of Inchon
aboard the Merchant Ship the Phoenix
at low tide and climbing up those walls with full transport packs
seems like every time I went on a MarLEX landings we made on the
Islands around Korea it was low tide in Inchon I was with Fox
2-11-1st Marine Division and we supported the Fifth Marines so
when they went out we did with full Transport packs up the ladders
of Inchon walls.
I to remember the trips from the rail head from Munson to Inchon
and the children alined along the tracks seems like it was for
miles and miles all the way some with no Arms,Legs,Scared faces
the one I remembered the most is seeing this small boy with a
bullet hole in his face we to gave some of our C rations one
thing he did not mention was to make sure was to take off your
watches before you handed any thing out
Seems to me like I was on the "Sh!t List" all of the time
getting caught off limits in Seoul, getting caught with out any
ammo in the M1 chamber while on the road, being off the road,
getting caught in the Pattey fields But I made out every time
one time was to dig a latrine it snowed that day and never
stopped Then sent on Guard Duty with other Marines that Had
messed up to guard an opened section that the Army had left open
seems that they had left some of their supplies behind and it
was Winter back at our compound we were ration a 50 gallon
barrel a month for our pot balley stove we had to make it last
for a month so we froze part of the day and here we are with
about 500 gallons and we were only there for 15 days on the time
I was put on Pot duty that night we got a direct hit on the pot
house at that time I was a young Marine and now I am an Old
Marine of 74 years But STILL A MARINE
Cpl of Marines Ernie Garcia (Barney Bear) Korea 53/54
1368933 USMC
This Sounds Right
Sgt. Grit:
In his letter of Sep 11, Peter Berg states that he was told in
Nov of 1973 that his recruit series was the first to go through
MCRD San Diego using the M-16 as a T/O weapon for both recruit
training and infantry training. This sounds right to me. I was in
Platoon 2094, 2d RTR, from Sep through Dec of 1973. We were told
that we were the last recruit series to go through recruit
training with the M-14. We were issued the M-14 for all phases
of recruit training, including rifle qualification. We were
issued the M-16 only for infantry training at Camp Pendleton. I
loved the M-14, and fired expert with it on Qualification Day.
One more item that may be of interest to Marines and Marine
veterans in the greater Tucson, AZ area. I and some other Tucson
area Marines are in the process of forming a Marine Corps League
detachment based in the city of Marana, AZ. I am asking that any
Tucson area Marines, Marine veterans, and FMF Corpsmen
interested in joining this fine organization contact me at the
below email address.
Semper Fi!
Robert Shirley
Tucson, AZ
Rmshirley55 (at) hotmail.com
A Little Bit Humbled
Sgt.Grit:
As an old Amphibious Recon. Korean Campaign Marine, let me say
that I always enjoy the comments sent by other Marines and their
Loved ones.
I guess I would qualify for the old Corps status that's referred
too in some of the letters I've noted. When I entered the
Association of Marine Brotherhood, in the winter of 1950 ,I Was
apprehensive too say the least. My Cousin was a Marine in 1945
and gave me a few pointers which helped me through MCRSD. On the
ship to Korea they needed good swimmers for special detail. I
latter found out I had been assigned to the most respected
outfit in the Corps. Amphibious Recon. The same unit that
brought up the rear guard out of the Chosen! They took heavy
casualties on that action and received the proper recognition as
was proper.
When I reported into Recon. I was a little bit humbled by the
records of their actions up to that time. I heard stories of
Bravery beyond belief. And following these men into the actions
after that left me in a complete state of respect. To this day
it has helped me to find my confidence to handle most anything
that Life throws at you. Bravery comes when you find out that
fear gives you nothing and may get you killed. Through the first
incursion into the Punch Bowl and the Firefights, I saw men
charge into 6 Ft high weed infested rice paddies, into burp gun
fire in an attempts to get prisoners.
On direct frontal attempts to consolidate MLR lines taking
Mortar fire all around them! On Winter night ambush patrols to
take prisoners! We also made the first Helicopter vertical
assault landing in a combat zone on the Eastern front in Sept.
of 51. Their accounts of men jumping on tanks and dropping
grenades down the periscopes left me with the firm belief that
no enemy of this country would stand a chance confronting a
heavily armed group of Recon Marines in any location on this
planet ! Let me say here that I know any Marine would lay down
his life for his Brothers his Country and his Family! As someone
once said " For Those That Have Fought For It, Life Has A Flavor
That The Protected Never Know! May God Shine His Light Of
Approval On My Beloved Corps So It Will Be The Shinning Example
For This Nation Into Eternity ! IN HIM
Sgt. Vern Hughes, 50-53, 1152476
I Got To Sick Bay
My time in the Corps was spent between June 1968 and April 1975
in San Diego for boot. Quantico, VA for schooling as an armorer.
Then to 29 Palms for a year until I was sent to Marine Barracks
Rodman Canal Zone until 1970. Back to Quantico in 1971 to 1972
and finally back to California at MCAS El Toro until I was
discharged honorably. I remember the day before my discharge I
was checking out of all the places on El Toro. When I got to sick
bay I was sent to see the dentist. They examined my teeth and
wanted me to come back the following week to have a tooth pulled.
When I told them I was getting out the next day I was asked to be
there at 0630 to have that tooth pulled. I said no problem. The
day I was being discharged, I was standing in formation when this
Major(I think) noticed my swollen jaw. He asked if I had been in
a fight. I said, "No Sir! I just had a tooth pulled, Sir!. He
started to laugh and when I started to laugh also, I found out I
shouldn't have done that cause it hurt like you know what. He then
handed me my discharge papers and moved on. I know I'll never
forget my final day in the Corps because of that tooth pulling.
Anyway, I want to thank you again for your wonderful website and
for your newsletters. I really enjoy reading them when they come in.
Semper Fi,
Carl Conkling
2409946
Sgt of Marines
Yemasee
I really enjoy getting the Sgt Grit News. A great way to keep
informed about new and Old Corps values. I especially enjoy
stories about Marines from my era. I've emailed you several
times and swear I'll just read and not compose, but some of the
letters stir old memories and my juices start flowing. I get a
kick out of the Yemassee stories and left the main road on the
way to Fla many years ago to see if the old receiving shack was
still there. Two old timers sitting in the shade told me it was
torn down back in the 60s, and Marines were still coming back to
visit. Stories about the place still abound. My uncle who
enlisted in 40 told me about this little town with weeds growing
up between the railroad ties having only recruits coming in
about once a week. His story about two sh!tbirds who couldn't
march properly being placed on opposite ends of the grinder got
my attention. One yelled so the other had to hear him " I'm a
sh!tbird from Yemasee the biggest sh!tbird you ever did see.!"
It had to be loud enough for the other to hear and answer "ME
TOO!" Then he had to start the process. Pretty hoarse after a
while?! When I attended in the summer of 52, I remember being
marched back from a class into our 4thBn Quonset hut area. We
were dismissed for a five minute head call, and on the way saw a
recruit carrying his locker box walking in the company street
yelling "Locked my locker lost my key." "I'm a sh!tbird from
Yemasee!" Funny now, but for that poor recruit, the temp had to
be in the 90s. That boot was still barely holding up that
locker box when I passed by on my return to my area.
About the old timers living on base. How many of you old timers
remember the police sergeants who had to be in their late 60s or
early 70s assigning the BARs and swabs out of the quarters
behind the company office. I happened to pass by the big
Quonset hut slop chute while I was on mess duty in 1952 and
swear this MSgt didn't have room for all his hash marks. The
Pvts and PFCs were all over this guy listening to his sea
stories and keeping him in beer. He was wearing his blues. It
was Marine Corps Birthday and they were having a grand old time.
F'n mess duty. I sort of enjoyed and learned a lot at ITR
Pendleton, but hated troopships and mess duty.
Frank Athis 1335915 USMC
PI CamPen Korea Henderson Hall 52-55
Camp Mathews
I just ran across the question as to who was the first boot camp
series to use the M16 and it brought up another question. When
was the old rifle range at Camp Mathews shut down? I was in
Platoon 155, MCRD San Diego in July 63 and we used M14's there.
A lot of the tents were in pretty bad shape, torn in half. I
remember that my rifle was locked to the foot of my cot, exposed
to the rain where the tent was ripped. Did the range close at
the same time that they switched over to M16's? We used shot-out
M1 Garands and BARS during ITR at Camp Pendleton.
I was a 3531 with 9th Motors and we shipped from Okinawa and
landed at Da Nang in early July 65 with 2/9 and H&S, 9th
Marines. We all used M14's until I left in April 66. I did see
the Air Force MP's on the Da Nang airbase carrying what I
believed were Armalite rifles which were very similar to the
M16.
Joe, Alpha Co., 9th Motors, 3rd MarDiv, USMC 63-66 "You call we
haul, you squawk, you walk!"
Semper Fi!
MGYSGT Sir John Marjanov
Cpl Mathias,
The stories told to you by your Motor T buddies were not true.
Sir John lived at MCB Pickle Meadows, Bridgeport, California . I
know because when I was stationed there in Motor T, back in
1979-80 I made the remark " who's the old grease monkey" in the
heavy equipment shop. I was quickly straightened out by the
Colonel, who was also at Johns side when he passed years later
just "WHO" the grease monkey was.. Below is an article from Sgt
Grits June 2, 2006 newsletter:
7th Motors assigned to Motor T Moutain Warfare Training Center
"Pickle Meadows"
Semper Fi
MGYSGT Sir John Marjanov
Attention on Deck Marines and Friends. I'm sorry to inform you
all that a Marine Corps Ledgend has passed away. MGySgt. Sir
John Marjanov has passed away 24 May 2002 and reported to Chesty
for duty at the pearly gates. I had the proud distinction to
knowing Sir John as he was called at Pickle Meadows Marine Corps
Mountain Trg Ctr. I worked close to Sir John when my unit in 79
or 80 rebuilt all the roads at the training center and I can say
that he was a colorful figure. Below is his accolade: Subject:
Taps for Master Gunnery Sergeant John Marjanov, USMC Master
Gunnery Sergeant John NMN Marjanov enlisted in the United States
Marine Corps on January 16, 1941 and went to Parris Island, SC
for basic training. He was assigned to 5th Marine regiment at
Quantico, VA. He volunteered for the newly formed 1st Raider
Battalion. Upon acceptance to the Raiders he was sent to Navy
Parachute School at Lakebust, NJ; Commando School in Scotland;
and Airborne training at the Army's base at Fort Benning, GA.
While he served with the Raiders in the Pacific Theatre, he
participated and distinguished himself in campaign on
Guadalcanal, New Britain, New Guinea and other classified
missions.
He took part in the Pelelieu landings with 1st Battalion, 1st
Marines, in Leyte with 2nd Battalion, 10th Marines, the invasion
of Iwo Jima with the 2nd Battalion, 26th Marines, and the
victory in Okinawa with the 2nd Battalion, 1st Marines. Toward
the end of the Pacific Campaign he participated in the
classified operations of mopping up Japanese war criminals in
China, during which he was part of the capturing of General
Yamashita. After the war, Master Gunnery Sergeant was involved
in the protection of American and British interest in northern
China against Chinese Communist guerrillas until he was
transferred to Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.
When hostilities in Korea erupted, Master Gunnery Sergeant
Marjanov was assigned to the 1st Marine Brigade in Korea. While
there, he participated in the defense of the Pusan Perimeter,
the amphibious invasion of Inchon, and the Chosin Reservoir
campaign. Because of his actions at the "Frozen Chosin", Master
Gunnery Sergeant Majanov was knighted by the Queen of England
and awarded the Victorian Cross the Order of the British Empire,
1st Order; Britain's equivalent to our Medal of Honor. He was
returned to the United States for a short time when he was
assigned back to Korea and was there for operations "Punchbowl",
"Unigok", "Bunker Hill", "Hook", "Reno", and "Boulder City".
During the Vietnam conflict, Master Gunnery Sergeant Marjanov
served with the 1st, 3rd, and 5th Marine Divisions. While on
active duty, Master Gunnery Sergeant served at MCMWTC, Pickle
Meadows on five separate tours. On 30 September 1974, Master
Gunnery Sergeant Marjanov retired from active duty with thirty-
three and one half years of service.
Master Gunnery Sergeant Marjanov's decorations include the
Silver Star (two awards); Bronze Star with Combat "V" (two
awards); the Purple Heart (eight awards); Victoria Cross; the
Order of the British Empire; 1st Order; Vietnamese Cross of
Gallantry (Corps Level); the Navy and Marine Corps Medal; and
the Combat Action Ribbon. He passed on to his eternal home in
the morning hours of 24 May, 2002 at Pickle Meadows with
Sailors, Marines, and one of his former Commanding Officers at
his bedside.
Semper Fidelis Chaplain Andrew Peter Sholtes Marine Corps
Mountain Warfare Training Center
Platoon 322, 1951
Grit:
This was my Uncle Bill Turney's boot camp picture. Platoon 322, 1951.
Semper Fi
Harold L Ramer
Now Without Killing Yourselves
"Now without killing yourselves, Get Off My Bus." These are the
last four words you will hear prior to your life changing
forever. The change begins immediately when you first mirror the
yellow footprints. Whatever doubts you had if this is real are
quickly gone as yelling is heard from all directions and your
heart attempts to escape your body. The night is young and so
are you but you will quickly learn that you have everything to
learn once again. We have come from all points throughout the
USA. From the big cities to the rural farms. Different social
status, Black, White Hispanic, and Asian to name a few. We begin
our journey into an elite brotherhood very different. But we
will emerge as one, a United States Marine.
What little knowledge we bring with us is quickly forgotten as
we are deprived of what we bring with us both mentally and
physically. We are stripped of our character to begin the
crucial rebuilding process. Our heads are all similar as our
youth is shaved to the scalp. We are very wide eyed but we seem
to see nothing. Time seems to stand still as it rushes by at a
pace never before experienced by any of us. You are whisked away
from room to room not knowing what to expect next. Fear is
everywhere but there is no time to think about it. Every second
is being fulfilled to it's maximum use. A brief phone call home
to ensure your safe arrival is a lie. As no one feels safe at
this time. Dental, medical and psychological exams are done
without hesitation or approval. The longest two or three days of
you life are only a glimpse of what lies ahead.
Arriving in your permanent platoon is indeed a very freighting
experience for anyone. You will do nothing right and everything
wrong. You will quickly forget your left from your right. You
will think up is down and vice versa. The simplest of tasks will
now cause great confusion to your very confused young mind.
Stress at a very high intense level will confuse the brightest
and toughest of minds. It is nothing but a blur as it is
occurring and it seems to last forever. Confusion is all around
as drill instructors bark out their orders. Some orders are
impossible to complete but we still try because we can not think
that far ahead under these stressful conditions. We will learn
how to bathe, how to shave, how to dress and how to speak and
act by the numbers. From one through ten we must not skip a
single beat. To do so would earn us extra time at pushing our
bodies off the deck. It's all about learning how to kill but we
do not understand this at this time.
Soreness is an everyday issue as we run or march everywhere we
go. Everything is done with the sense of urgency. We move like
bees in a hive. Our focus is so great that a spaceship can whiz
by our heads and we would not even notice. It is not our job to
notice spaceships. We are here to follow orders and carry them
out. Drilling is an everyday thing. Our rifle is our best friend
as we march around the parade deck. The only sound our ears are
allowed to pick up is that of our drill instructors barking out
the most beautiful cadences. As time goes by we begin to gel as
a platoon but no one is giving us praise. We are still worthless
and are often reminded of this by giving us some extra training
in a giant dirt pit. This pit builds character as the reason for
being in it is usually false. To do your best will never be good
enough in their eyes. Nothing is ever personal but it seems as
if everything you do is personal around these parts.
As the end nears you will have a brief moment to reflect on what
you have accomplished. From qualifying with the rifle, to
swimming with all of your gear. From drilling to inspections and
the countless miles ran and humped. The transformation is near
it's end but soon it will begin once again. Our movements are
crisp and our appearance is clean. Our words have purpose and
our reflection reflects confidence. Hair is back on top as we
now walk with tremendous pride. The drill instructors are still
here to remind us of where we are and where we have been. They
have not flinched once during their grueling task. They make
KILLERS for a living and this is not an easy task. To question
their methods is wrong, to look at the results is proof. They
are at a level in which very few will ever reach. Many try to
become one and many fail, so this truly is the best of the best.
We must never forget why we chose to become US Marines. We must
never forget those that made us Marines. And we must never
forget those that died for their country and the Eagle Globe and
Anchor. If everyone could be a Marine then we wouldn't be
Marines. When America dials 911 the Marines will always answer.
Always have and always will. Semper Fi Jarheads!
G. Perez
USMC
Career PFC
Grit....update to info for Sid Gerling's question in 8/28/08
newsletter about the old Marine who lived in Bldg 31 (Depot Hq,
MCRD, SD). Contacted an old DI bud of mine who served tours as
a DI and as a Recruit Company Commander, and now volunteers at
the Command Museum as a docent, one Lou Chatelle. You can pick
up his story below at "most of what I know about the old
veteran..etc.". You might want to add an editorial explanation
of 'career PFC' we had them, also career Privates back in
the days before 'up or out' Thomason chronicles them in
'The Old Breed'. Thought this is an interesting bit of Corps
lore.... Semper Fi, Dick Dickerson Hendersonville, TN
Always nice to hear from you, Dick.
Most of what I know about the old veteran is true, at least I
think so, but much of it is lore of the Corps, as well. He
lived in a small room across the passageway from the Depot
Chapel. There are two such rooms, one for the bride and one for
the groom. "Stash" (SIC?) lived in the "Groom's Room. Legend
has it that he served for a long time in the Corps and that he
was a championship level boxer and probably a little slower
because of the brain damage he sustained. He was a professional
PFC and near the end of his career, he was promoted to Cpl. one
day, forbidden liberty on that night, and to Sgt. the next and
again forbidden liberty that night. He was retired early the
next morning so that he had no chance to get busted. He applied
for and got a job with an appropriated fund facility aboard
MCRD, San Diego and sometime while so employed moved into the
room. When he retired from Civil Service, he went to work for
the PX and continued working there until he retired again. He
still lived in the same room. He was at a loss for a way to
spend his time so he somehow got a job as a clean up man in
Bldg. 31 Barber Shop, and concurrently began caring for the
police of the CG's office. The largest fear any CG had was that
he would die on their watch, which he finally did. Probably
because of his generosity to the Chaplain's Fund, the sitting CG
skated. I don't even know who the CG was at that time.
Stash shadow boxed for exercise every day and went on liberty
every Thursday, but returned to his Quarters before "Taps" was
sounded @ 2200.
His room was decorated with framed and autographed pictures of
General Officers and a few Commandants. I'm glad that I knew
him.
He was much more interesting than the "Dos Equis" salesman who
is touted as the most interesting man in the world.
Semper fi,
Lou
Under The North Archway
Responding to SgtMaj Devaney's submission about a retired Marine
living on MCRD. I was stationed at MCRD San Diego for about 2
years (1977-1979), in the Depot Adjutant's office. One of our
office's responsibilities was to check daily on "Sas" to make
sure he was OK. He lived in a spare room (old maintenance room)
on the north side of the building, 1st floor, just under the
north archway. It was really no more than an old storage/deep
sink room that had a cot, a hot plate, and a few personal
objects. He was in his 70's at that time, and the condition of
his quarters and himself put many active duty Marines to shame.
He was a former China Marine and a former boxer. He would wear
an old boxing sweatshirt as he roamed around the HQ building.
Though nothing was expected of him, he would go around the HQ
building on a daily basis emptying trash cans and carrying a
feather duster to dust everything. He used to pause and tell
stories about his time in China and elsewhere, and joke about
how boxing gave him his good looks - wish I would have listened
closer and written some down. The CG guaranteed him a place to
live for life, and my understanding was that was just tradition
for each CG to do - don't know when he first arrived there. I
believe his first name was Adam (?) and his last name was
Sasidek (Sp?) or similar. I inquired at MCRD a couple years
ago, and the base historian said he passed away (I believe in
the late 80's). He was never expelled from the Depot, at least
not that I am aware of, or that the base historian could
determine.
Semper Fi.
Sgt. Ken Williams
1975-1979
100 Harrison Street
someone asked about 100 Harrison Street in S,Fran. I am a
native Californian and also of a "Frisco" suburb. I was married
Jan. 31, 1946 and my husband Sgt John R. Hutchinson 1st Marine
Div. Tank Corp or whatever you call it was stationed there for
several months and was transferred to Barstow in the Mojave
Desert. They were putting Tanks and whatever in mothballs and
storing them in the dessert. What he specifically did I don't
know but Harrison street was open at that time and he was also
at Eisle's Creek (not sure how you spelled it. He was on
Guadalcanal because although he never talked about his service I
did hear him and a couple buddies talking once. That is all I
know about 100 Harrison st. He passed away in 1988. A Marine
Wife Doris M. Hutchinson.
Korea 1953
This is a photo that was taken with my Argus, C-3 camera, some
time before July 16th 1953, and the last time I was on line. We
were on hill 229; our MLR, our combat Outpost was Kate, hill
128= 2000 yards north, of the trench line at Able Gate. And Our
Dog Company 2nd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment Commander was Lt
Col. Andrew Geer. Our Company Commanding Officer was Captain
Woods, I had been a BAR man in the 3rd squad 2nd platoon 1st
fire team for nine months, but had transferred to a 3.5 rocket
launcher platoon in May 1953 when the 33rd draft arrived, My
good buddy Cliff Kroeber encouraged me to do it. It was an easy
transfer handled by Lt. Evans; he knew I had a wife and child
waiting for me in Con.US. Before we went on the two MarLEXes =
Marine landing EXersizes in May and June 1953 that I have
recorded in my diary, and written about in another reflection, I
trained on the weapon and became a gunner. Since I had survived
a lot of line time for past nine months, and was getting close
to being a short timer. Early in the morning after my night
watch...
Read the rest of Howard's story...
Howard Frasier
LCpl Dusty
Thought you might want to see my "LCpl Dusty" with his Sgt Grit
sweater and chevrons.
The Combined Action Program
The Combined Action Program was set up about 1965 with the
intention of 'winning the hearts and minds' of the villagers in
South Vietnam. It was patterned after a similar type of program
used in Haiti in the 1930's to quell guerrilla unrest. The
concept is to help and protect the villagers who in turn will
help the American military search out the guerrilla forces. The
USMC is utilizing this same concept in Iraq, and it might be
responsible for more of our current victory there while the
'surge' gets all the credit.
In 1971 I was assigned to one of these units. Parent unit was
the 3rd MAF [Marine Amphibious Force] which included along with
the four CAG units, the 1st Mar Div, 1st Marine Air Wing, and
other units. Approx March of '71 the 3rd MAF was turned into the
3rd MAB [Marine Amphibious Brigade]. In 1968 at the height of
the program, there were 4 CAG units in South Vietnam. In 1971
the only CAG unit remaining was the 2nd CAG. When you use the
saying of 'I was a CAP Marine', it means you were in the
Combined Action Program. They use the word Combined because the
unit was half Marine and half South Viet. Popular Force soldier
[village militia]. A CAG unit was similar to a Battalion unit
and had a compound somewhere in the approx center of it's area
of responsibility as it's home. 2nd CAG in '71 was approx 3 km
north of Hoi An [approx 28 km south of DaNang on Hwy 1 ]. Each
CAG unit was made up of four or five company's-these were called
CACO's [Combined Action Company's. HQ added the O, as CAC in
Vietnamese is slang for the male 'appendage'. Each CACO had it's
own compound it called home with a few HQ types assigned there.
It also was located somewhere within it's area of
responsibility. 4th CACO was in Hoi An, while 3rd CACO was in
Dien Ban. Some of the CACO compounds were connected with some
RF unit compounds [Regional Force] -similar to National Guard
Units. Each CACO consisted of 5-6 CAP's [Combined Action
Platoon] which consisted of 12-20 South Vietnamese PF's who
lived in the hamlets and village the CAP protected. The Marine
contingent in it's ideal TO would be led by a Sergeant [E-5] as
the Cap Commander. The Cap would consist of two teams Alpha and
Bravo, each led by a Corporal. Each team had one
radioman/rifleman, one M-60 Machine Gunner, one M-79 Grenadier
[blooper], and two riflemen. This brings the total of Marines to
13. The Cap also included one Navy Corpsman. In 1968 a lot of
these Cap's were overrun and wiped out when confronted by a
battalion of NVA on their way to DaNang and Hue. The PF's mostly
ran, and the 14 Americans were no match for a battalion size
enemy unit. Most times a small Cap could be wiped out before
reinforcements showed up, air support, or arty clearance was
given. I was in CAP 246 [2nd CAG, 4th CACO, 6th CAP]. For
three months we had a corporal as our Cap Commander and our team
leaders were Lance Corporals. The USMC prides itself on the
fact that no other branch of the military has such small units
led by junior NCO's in such large areas of responsibility in
combat. My CAP [246], was the last CAP in South Vietnam and
when 2nd CAG was packing up everything, we were expanded with a
couple more M-60's, bloopers, and riflemen along with a 2nd
Corpsman and became a Security Platoon for the compound . When
2nd CAG was disbanded in mid May of '71 everything was loaded
into a 6x convoy and we rode on top of the piled up stuff to
DaNang as security for the trucks. When we got to DaNang-
EVERYTHING was handed over to the South Vietnamese Army-
[Weapons, munitions, and ammo-everything]. I was an 0351
trained in Rocket Launcher [bazooka], flame thrower,
demolitions, and the 106 Recoilless Rifle. When I arrived at CAP
246 they gave me a Prick 25 radio and an M-16. Ed Thueme,
CAP 246, 2NDCAG
SOS
Dear Sgt. Grit,
I read your latest issue (#183) and the story written by Elysia
Bowman-Gaines regarding SOS which included the link to the
origin of SOS written by E. Wickenheiser. I was reminded of my
first introduction to SOS in the summer of 1966 at MCRD-San
Diego and how it became a morning favorite of mine for the past
42 years. In 1989 I was on TDY in New Jersey for my job with the
DoD/DLA and I stayed at a Marine base there. One morning they
served SOS and I asked the cook for his personal recipe. He
gave me enough information to replicate the recipe and I have
been making it myself ever since. I've made batches for many of
my Vietnam Veterans of America chapter friends and they all
loved it, so I have shared the recipe with them, including
putting it in our VVA chapter cookbook. I wanted to share the
recipe with all my fellow Marines and your readers. I posted
the recipe at http://www.ussgurke.org/marine.htm many years ago,
so if you lose it you can always go there and retrieve it.
Title: A True Marine SOS Recipe
Name: Glenn Podhola
USMC: 1966-1968
Unit: 1st Mar. Div., 3rd Btn., 1st Mar Reg., India Co
The best Marine movie quote of all time:
"Life is tough, it's tougher if you're stupid"
--"Sands of Iwo Jima"
Thanks Elysia for the recipe for Marine Corps SOS. Learned to
like SOS with ground meat but never with chipped beef. I have
been out of the Corps for 44 years and still make SOS. I add
onions and a little bit of oregano to mine, otherwise it is the
same.
Frank D Briceno
USMC
USMCR
Sgt Grit:
We always had SOS for breakfast before departing on an extended
hike. Our Gunny always said "It's good for you 'cause it sticks
to your ribs" and our reply was "Yes, and your teeth, tongue,
lips and the roof of your mouth". I've been out since '69 and
still miss it. Thanks for the recipe.
J. Lape '57 - '69.
Short Rounds
Dad To Bootcamp Weblog
Peter J Berg wrote that he entered MCRD SD in Nov 73, was in PLT
2116, and carried an M-16. Well, back in the OLD CORPS we
carried M-14s at Dago! In fact, we were the last series to
carry M-14s.
Semper FI, Boot!
Jeff Howards
PLT 2079, Graduated MCRD SD 1 Nov 73!
Sgt 1973-1977, Retired as Captain, 1993
After reading the last newsletter, I heard of different Motor-T
schools. I went to camp Del Mar on Camp Pendleton for all of my
schools, 3531,3533, and 3534. When I was there for my 3534
school, there was some Gunny that had his name legally changed
to "Devil Dog".
Cpl. Keith Grisham, 3534 82-86
Semper Fi;
I was in the Marines from 1948 to 1956. Served with H-3-5, Guam,
Pendleton and Korea with the first Brigade.
On all my amphibious activity we called LCVP's "Peter" boats, we
don't no why and I never heard it in other units I was in. Can
any one advise?
Thanks, Larry Brom...
S/Sgt H-3-5
"Once I walked with Warriors"
I have been busy going to a academy for my new job. In our class
at the academy we have three former MARINES that are young such
as 19 to 24 years of age. I have talked to them about the OLD
CORPS and the NEW CORPS and things sure have changed since you
and I were in the CORPS. THEY did not know what a junk on the
bunk was or a IG or CG inspection was ,and they don't have
their stripes pinned on by members of either their platoon or
their company in a such way as going thru a gauntlet and they
did not know what the pit was in boot camp.
STEVE USMC - 0351
I first saw "For those who choose to fight for it, life has a
special flavor the protected will never know," on a photograph
of a hand lettered sign a C-Rat box flap over a bunker at Khe
Sanh. The photograph was dated 1968.
Cpl. Mark Lanz, USMC Ret.
0311
RSVN graduate 1969
My son in law, Josh Marine, is a radio tech aboard a submarine.
He was recently pulled from the sub and sent for training at an
air force and army base before being deployed this last week to
Iraq.
The Chief of the Boat had a bumper sticker made for my daughter
that reads...
I am married to a Marine and sleep with a sailor that does a
soldiers job at an air force base!
Sgt Steve Johnson (Former)
VMFP-3
"Eyes of the Corps"
Yesterday 9-17-69 I was shot on mutter ridge I 3/4. Just wanted
to say S/F
Sgt Grit,
Here are two pretty easy Motor T sayings:
"You call, we haul"
"If we can't haul it, you don't need it"
Semper Fi;
I was in the Marines from 1948 to 1956. Served with H-3-5,
Guam, Pendleton and Korea with the first Brigade.
On all my amphibious activity we called LCVP's "Peter" boats, we
don't no why and I never heard it in other units I was in.
Thanks, Larry Brom...
S/Sgt H-3-5
"Once I walked with Warriors"
'....and when you men get home and face an anti-war protester,
look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his
girlfriend, because we knows she's dating a pvssy.
General Franks, US Army
Does the Corps still use "782" term or has it changed. I know
the gear has changed quite a bit.
Speaking of MC heroes, who remembers Pvt. McGuilliquidy?
Frank D Briceno
Sgt of Marines
USMC/USMCR

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